Hey All,
I put in an order for the Commodore Callback 8020 this week.
Yeah, even though I’m not a fan of Perifractic or the choice of Commodore to do a phone as a product. But after this weekend’s news adding tio the increasing technology changes— YouTube rules and restrictions and possible Government censoring, and Sony announcing they’re ending physical disc production for new PlayStation games starting January 2028 — something in my old Gen X brain clicked. The relentless push toward total digital dependency, no real ownership, everything locked behind corporate servers and algorithms… it’s accelerating. The idea and concept of limited technology isn’t just nostalgic anymore. It feels necessary.
I actually like my iPhone and I respect the real advancements in camera and video quality over the years — those are impressive. But those enhancements come with a heavy price in other aspects of life. Technology has become so tiring and uniform. Every laptop looks the same, every phone looks the same. A new device or software update used to be fun and exciting — discovering new form factors, capabilities, and experiences with each generation. Now it’s mostly the same monotonous grind. The last truly exciting iPhone I got was the iPhone 4. I’m on the 17 now, and it has basically the identical form factor and design language as the 4. I’ve had every model since the first one, but it feels more like a yearly ritual than genuine excitement over something new and different.
The constant connectivity, notifications, and endless features end up eating so much time and attention that I don’t even have time left to properly enjoy and use the good things that advancing technology is supposed to deliver. I’m not getting rid of my iPhone or my Mac — they’re staying — but I am reevaluating how I use them so they serve me instead of the other way around.
Modern technology is deliberately designed to consume every spare second — notifications, infinite scrolls, algorithmic recommendations, constant “engagement.” It doesn’t respect your time because your attention is the product. Sony taking away physical discs is the same mindset: you won’t own your media anymore, you’ll just rent access that can be revoked whenever they decide. YouTube’s endless rule changes and limitations on what creators and users can actually do freely? Same thing. More control, less freedom, more dependency.
That’s why I’m doubling down on limited, intentional technology instead of fighting a losing battle with willpower alone.....and there is the point of this post. I'm not necessarily in agreement with the phone and Commodore. But I am in agreement with an overall concept of les technology but meaningful technology is the way to go. The phone does represent that. Also, it may fund the ability of Commodore to purchase Amiga.
The Atari 2600 revival scene makes sense to me — finite games with clear starts and ends, no microtransactions, no FOMO, no “live service” nonsense. BBS systems where you connect on purpose, read at your own pace, and the community isn’t shaped by surveillance algorithms trying to keep you scrolling. My Ultimate 64 setups, managed CMD HD partitions, physical media (or at least deliberate digital media), and yes, even dot matrix printing — these things force you to slow down and make real choices. They have natural limits built in. They don’t pretend to be infinite — and that’s exactly what makes them exciting again.
The Callback 8020, for all my reservations about where it’s coming from, actually seems to understand this philosophy. A flip phone you can physically close when you’re done. T9 texting that makes you think before you type. No built-in social media doomscrolling or browser rabbit holes by design. It introduces deliberate friction instead of removing every last bit of it. In a world that’s trying to make everything frictionless and addictive, that feels like a sane counter-move — a tool to complement, not replace, my existing setup. Surprisingly almost 10,000 pre-orders means there is a demographic for this phone concept at this price point; like it or not.
I’m 59. I don’t have unlimited time left to waste on systems that treat human attention as an infinite resource to be mined. Now is the time to rethink how I use technology — and how much of my life technology has been using. The retro computing world, physical media where it still exists, self-hosted tools, BBS culture, and yes, even a deliberately limited phone like this one… they’re all pieces of the same resistance for me. Not because I hate progress (I love technology always have), but because unlimited, always-on, corporate-controlled tech has become its own kind of trap.
Anyone else feeling this? What limited or “old school” setups are you building or reviving to take back some control of your time and attention? I’d genuinely like to hear how other people are approaching it.
— Sutehk
I know im new here but your post is top of page on every thing I see so.... Gotta reply. Its wild to me that Peri who did something no ones ever done before by the way and in 5 months somehow.... Gets constantly shit on in places like this. I dont know much about the guy I only came across him maybe 18 months ago?
But I assume if your here on this board ordering that phone your not a young kid? So im not real sure why so many older folks are following the young kid thing of hating everything and everyone as if thats some normal baseline in life. Anyway dont really care I just am stunned that this person who is the biggest fan of a thing thats been dead and mishandled for decades somehow pulled off what no one has ever pulled off before and to insane success and critical acclaim and still most people gotta make sure they let be known "Im not a fan of this guy or what hes doing next" .... Ughhhhhhh /facepalm
Just cause I know how it goes everyone whose about to reply to this or the OP in your reply can you tell me all the long dead beloved companies you successfully resurrected and had hardware shipping worldwide to perfect review scores in the last 10 years ? Maybe im ignorant.
@madmike826
Appreciate the reply.
Just to clarify — the post wasn’t really about hating on Peri. I said I’m not a fan of his public persona or the decision to make a phone under the Commodore name, and that’s still true. At the same time I ordered one, so clearly the concept itself won out over those reservations.
The phone is interesting to me for one main reason: it deliberately puts friction back in. Flip to close, T9, no browser, no social. That’s the part that lines up with what I’ve been thinking about for a while — limited, intentional tools instead of the endless, attention-harvesting ones. The fact that it might help fund an Amiga purchase may be a nice side effect, but it wasn’t the driver.
Whether someone likes the guy or not, getting hardware designed, manufactured, and shipping under a revived Commodore brand in that timeframe is an actual accomplishment. No argument there. I’m just more focused on what the device does (and doesn’t do) and how it fits in with Commodore as a revived company than on the personality behind it.
You can respect what someone achieves without having to like the person. Those two things aren’t the same.
Same goes for companies. I’ve liked Commodore for decades. That doesn’t mean I’m required to cheer every product decision they make, or pretend I suddenly became a fan of the guy now running it.
I ordered the phone because the concept is interesting to me — limited, intentional, friction by design. Not because I drank the Kool-Aid. Disliking the messenger doesn’t automatically cancel out the message, and liking the company doesn’t mean every product gets a free pass.
Pretty basic distinction, but it seems to keep getting lost.
Modern culture has become obsessed with treating a single personal event or achievement as a permanent free pass for everything that comes after, or treating one misstep as grounds to erase everything that came before. Accomplishments and personalities have no automatic correlation. One doesn’t redeem or invalidate the other. Younger generations increasingly can’t (or won’t) make that separation. I’m glad I’m old enough to still know the difference.
Still more interested in hearing what limited or deliberate setups other people are actually running these days than in litigating personalities.
— Sutehk
Commodore 64 BBS -=[ commodore64bbs.com:6464 ]=- ....1st Commodore 64 Ultimate to run Image BBS 3.0!
The Kats Alley BBS -=[ tka.8bitboyz.com:6400 ]=- ....Running Image 3.0 for the C64
8-Bit Boyz BBS -=[ bbs.8bitboyz.com:6502 ]=- ....Running Mystic on Windows
Best Retro Web Resource -=[ www.8bitboyz.com ]=- ....Running a whole lotta PHP, Javascript, SQL and so much more!
P.S. @madmike8264
I forgot to add, I personally found it funny when the flippy phone annoucement came out as it reminded me of a question I got to ask Michael Tomczyk about 5 years ago. I asked him, based on everything he knows of Jack, and if Jack did not leave Commodore how different would he think Commodore's path have been? The answer was right there with Peri's course.
You can watch Tomczyk responce in full here: https://8bitboyz.com/2021/12/05/what-if-jack-stayed-at-commodore/
-PalKat
Commodore 64 BBS -=[ commodore64bbs.com:6464 ]=- ....1st Commodore 64 Ultimate to run Image BBS 3.0!
The Kats Alley BBS -=[ tka.8bitboyz.com:6400 ]=- ....Running Image 3.0 for the C64
8-Bit Boyz BBS -=[ bbs.8bitboyz.com:6502 ]=- ....Running Mystic on Windows
Best Retro Web Resource -=[ www.8bitboyz.com ]=- ....Running a whole lotta PHP, Javascript, SQL and so much more!
Well said @palkat !
New fresh voices are important; especially if there is any possibility or hope to keep retro machines, software and concepts alive in the future.
-Sutehk