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(@bucko)
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Posted by: @radius75

Hi.
As far as I remember, at 38400 I couldn't do U/D properly either on punter or xmodemcrc.
At 2400 U/D it runs at xmodemcrc 100%. and the punter is probably just a download only.

I guess I will need to start testing things on my system with Striketerm from my U64.. Sorry for it not working well..

 

 

 

Bucko
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Posted : 11/02/2023 7:50 pm
(@radius75)
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Could these upcoming changes be crucial to improving BBS performance?
https://sourceforge.net/p/vice-emu/code/44070/
https://github.com/go4retro/tcpser/pull/24

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Topic starter Posted : 18/06/2023 9:54 am
(@bucko)
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Posted by: @radius75

Could these upcoming changes be crucial to improving BBS performance?
https://sourceforge.net/p/vice-emu/code/44070/
https://github.com/go4retro/tcpser/pull/24

I don't think it will help the upload/download performance, but it will make some obscure BBS programs work well.. Hopefully, Jim updates TCPSER to do this because I think it might help me with getting my C-Net 128 version online... I know not much help..

 

 

Bucko
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Wrong Number ]I[ BBS - wn3.wrgnbr.com:6400 (CNet Amiga BBS)
Wrong Number IV BBS - wn4.wrgnbr.com:3000 (Image BBS v3.0)
Wrong Number VI BBS - wn6.wrgnbr.com:6411 (ORIGINAL Wrong Number ][ Retro 1993 BBS)
Bucko's Den BBS - bdn.wrgnbr.com:6428 (One of only two known C-Net 128 Boards!!)
The Time Warp BBS - twb.wrgnbr.com:6896 (Centipede 128 Dual Line BBS)
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Posted : 18/06/2023 10:16 am
(@radius75)
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Pity. By connecting two CCGMS p2p CCGMS on Vice I am able to send punter 38400 between them without error.
And in connections with CCGMS - BBSs, the punter works correctly only up to 2400.

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Topic starter Posted : 03/07/2023 1:42 pm
(@bucko)
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Posted by: @radius75

Pity. By connecting two CCGMS p2p CCGMS on Vice I am able to send punter 38400 between them without error.
And in connections with CCGMS - BBSs, the punter works correctly only up to 2400.

I think a lot of the issues are timing issues with telnet. Both instances of CCGMS transfer with no issues, I can transfer with Image Term to another Image BBS usually with little to no changes, but going from CCGMS to Image or for that matter CNet is a no go.. I don't have any answers unfortunately...

 

Bucko
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Website: www.wrgnbr.com
Wrong Number ][ BBS - wn2.wrgnbr.com:23 (Mystic BBS)
Wrong Number ]I[ BBS - wn3.wrgnbr.com:6400 (CNet Amiga BBS)
Wrong Number IV BBS - wn4.wrgnbr.com:3000 (Image BBS v3.0)
Wrong Number VI BBS - wn6.wrgnbr.com:6411 (ORIGINAL Wrong Number ][ Retro 1993 BBS)
Bucko's Den BBS - bdn.wrgnbr.com:6428 (One of only two known C-Net 128 Boards!!)
The Time Warp BBS - twb.wrgnbr.com:6896 (Centipede 128 Dual Line BBS)
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Posted : 03/07/2023 4:11 pm
(@radius75)
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Can the Mini Terminal (MT) in Image3.0 send/receive files? I wanted to do a test.
Is there a way?

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Topic starter Posted : 05/07/2023 1:13 am
(@bucko)
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Posted by: @radius75

Can the Mini Terminal (MT) in Image3.0 send/receive files? I wanted to do a test.
Is there a way?

 

Yes, it can send and receive files from the waiting for call screen hit the back arrow key and Image term will load, once you get the menu you will see what it can do, it is pretty much a full fledged term program... Years back there was a stand alone version for 1.2. I might take a look at that as a side project and update it to 3.0.

 

Bucko
Wrong Number Family of BBS'
Website: www.wrgnbr.com
Wrong Number ][ BBS - wn2.wrgnbr.com:23 (Mystic BBS)
Wrong Number ]I[ BBS - wn3.wrgnbr.com:6400 (CNet Amiga BBS)
Wrong Number IV BBS - wn4.wrgnbr.com:3000 (Image BBS v3.0)
Wrong Number VI BBS - wn6.wrgnbr.com:6411 (ORIGINAL Wrong Number ][ Retro 1993 BBS)
Bucko's Den BBS - bdn.wrgnbr.com:6428 (One of only two known C-Net 128 Boards!!)
The Time Warp BBS - twb.wrgnbr.com:6896 (Centipede 128 Dual Line BBS)
twb.wrgnbr.com:6897

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Posted : 05/07/2023 3:44 pm
(@radius75)
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I don't know how to apply what you wrote.
If I call from CCGMS to MT it answers the call automatically after the first RING.

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Topic starter Posted : 08/07/2023 2:14 pm
(@bucko)
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Posted by: @radius75

I don't know how to apply what you wrote.
If I call from CCGMS to MT it answers the call automatically after the first RING.

 

I thought you had a full Image BBS running and was going into the built in term program. If that is the case then you just hit the back arrow key from the waiting for call screen and it will load up the term.. Otherwise, there is no mini term program, there is a MT command from the main prompt but that only works from local mode and is useless in my opinion.. I am not sure what you mean by MT though...

 

Bucko
Wrong Number Family of BBS'
Website: www.wrgnbr.com
Wrong Number ][ BBS - wn2.wrgnbr.com:23 (Mystic BBS)
Wrong Number ]I[ BBS - wn3.wrgnbr.com:6400 (CNet Amiga BBS)
Wrong Number IV BBS - wn4.wrgnbr.com:3000 (Image BBS v3.0)
Wrong Number VI BBS - wn6.wrgnbr.com:6411 (ORIGINAL Wrong Number ][ Retro 1993 BBS)
Bucko's Den BBS - bdn.wrgnbr.com:6428 (One of only two known C-Net 128 Boards!!)
The Time Warp BBS - twb.wrgnbr.com:6896 (Centipede 128 Dual Line BBS)
twb.wrgnbr.com:6897

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Posted : 08/07/2023 7:36 pm
(@radius75)
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Now I understood well.
I thought all the time it was about the Mini Terminal, run by the MT command.

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To sum up:
I tested the punter between CCGMS and with Image-Term (<- on iddle screen)

transfer punter 38400 from CCGMS to Image-Term without success, multiple ACKs and error
transfer punter 38400 from Image-Term to CCGMS is OK, no error

I did not check on lower transfer rates.

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This is a better result than after logging into BBS, where there are errors and multiple ACKs on the download from ImageBBS to CCGMS.
However, transfer punter 38400 CCGMS<>CCGMS works flawlessly both ways.

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Topic starter Posted : 09/07/2023 6:39 am
(@bucko)
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Posted by: @radius75

Now I understood well.
I thought all the time it was about the Mini Terminal, run by the MT command.

--
To sum up:
I tested the punter between CCGMS and with Image-Term (<- on iddle screen)

transfer punter 38400 from CCGMS to Image-Term without success, multiple ACKs and error
transfer punter 38400 from Image-Term to CCGMS is OK, no error

I did not check on lower transfer rates.

--
This is a better result than after logging into BBS, where there are errors and multiple ACKs on the download from ImageBBS to CCGMS.
However, transfer punter 38400 CCGMS<>CCGMS works flawlessly both ways.

 

Give Multi punter a try even for just a single file. Last night at the jitsi chat a couple of people said that multi punter works pretty well. Other then that, unfortunately I have no answers.. Wish I could give you a fix for it, but I don't have any others.. 🙁

 

Bucko
Wrong Number Family of BBS'
Website: www.wrgnbr.com
Wrong Number ][ BBS - wn2.wrgnbr.com:23 (Mystic BBS)
Wrong Number ]I[ BBS - wn3.wrgnbr.com:6400 (CNet Amiga BBS)
Wrong Number IV BBS - wn4.wrgnbr.com:3000 (Image BBS v3.0)
Wrong Number VI BBS - wn6.wrgnbr.com:6411 (ORIGINAL Wrong Number ][ Retro 1993 BBS)
Bucko's Den BBS - bdn.wrgnbr.com:6428 (One of only two known C-Net 128 Boards!!)
The Time Warp BBS - twb.wrgnbr.com:6896 (Centipede 128 Dual Line BBS)
twb.wrgnbr.com:6897

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Posted : 09/07/2023 9:15 am
(@bucko)
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I know this is an old post, but a lot has changed since this post.. Fixes made to Vice by an outside party (Cube Inc.) has made file transfers very stable. CCGMS works sometimes, Striketerm works every time!! I have uploaded and downloaded well over 400 files in the past several weeks from my BBS' which are running with the fixes installed at 38.4k and have had fewer then 10 bad blocks in the whole lot! Because of this, I will be updating my BBS on a stick project within the next several days to include the latest Image files for 3.0, a copy of WinVice for Windows users with the fixes installed. On the Linux side of things, I will be updating the script to install the fixes upon running the script. This will also include the latest Image fixes up to when I do it.  It will be at least a few days because DOC files and other things need to be updated to reflect new information. 

Bucko
Wrong Number Family of BBS'
Website: www.wrgnbr.com
Wrong Number ][ BBS - wn2.wrgnbr.com:23 (Mystic BBS)
Wrong Number ]I[ BBS - wn3.wrgnbr.com:6400 (CNet Amiga BBS)
Wrong Number IV BBS - wn4.wrgnbr.com:3000 (Image BBS v3.0)
Wrong Number VI BBS - wn6.wrgnbr.com:6411 (ORIGINAL Wrong Number ][ Retro 1993 BBS)
Bucko's Den BBS - bdn.wrgnbr.com:6428 (One of only two known C-Net 128 Boards!!)
The Time Warp BBS - twb.wrgnbr.com:6896 (Centipede 128 Dual Line BBS)
twb.wrgnbr.com:6897

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Posted : 23/05/2024 6:07 pm
(@radius75)
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It's a good news. I will update Vice to the latest release and see if there are any significant improvements in uploads.

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Topic starter Posted : 01/06/2024 7:56 pm
(@radius75)
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I checked. No improvement. Latest Vice r45181
All blocks damaged during upload, x-modem crc at 38400.
Could you please provide more details about your configuration
the latest tcpser with RI support?, what tcpser settings, what connection configuration in vice...

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Topic starter Posted : 02/06/2024 12:19 pm
(@bucko)
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Posted by: @radius75

I checked. No improvement. Latest Vice r45181
All blocks damaged during upload, x-modem crc at 38400.
Could you please provide more details about your configuration
the latest tcpser with RI support?, what tcpser settings, what connection configuration in vice...

 

Download the BBS on a stick from the main page, and use the Vice from that. The fixes that were done by Cube Inc. are not in the release Vice. I have been testing this with Punter and it works fine, Xmodem I haven't in a while but when I did it worked fine.. Try the version I suggest.. As for TCPSER, I use 1.1.5, (haven't upgraded yet to 1.1.6) and nothing special for settings tcpser -s 38400 -v 25232 -p 3000 -l 4 that is it. 

 

Let me know how you make out...

 

 

Bucko
Wrong Number Family of BBS'
Website: www.wrgnbr.com
Wrong Number ][ BBS - wn2.wrgnbr.com:23 (Mystic BBS)
Wrong Number ]I[ BBS - wn3.wrgnbr.com:6400 (CNet Amiga BBS)
Wrong Number IV BBS - wn4.wrgnbr.com:3000 (Image BBS v3.0)
Wrong Number VI BBS - wn6.wrgnbr.com:6411 (ORIGINAL Wrong Number ][ Retro 1993 BBS)
Bucko's Den BBS - bdn.wrgnbr.com:6428 (One of only two known C-Net 128 Boards!!)
The Time Warp BBS - twb.wrgnbr.com:6896 (Centipede 128 Dual Line BBS)
twb.wrgnbr.com:6897

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Posted : 02/06/2024 6:25 pm
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